The Divine Language of Coincidence

Interview Episode with Sophia Demas

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Sopia: Thank you so much for inviting me.

laurin: So we're gonna be talking about a lot of different things that I call spirit guides. Some people call coincidences, synchronicities, miracles. So, Sophia and I have a lot of overlap in our experience with being guided. We have a little bit of different ways of thinking about it in places, but I don't think it's big places.

So for me, I'm just gonna share my sort of origin story of working with my spirit guides. And that is, I was actually at a writer's conference with my best friend, who I call my chief instigator, cuz she likes to say, “Try this.” And she had met somebody who spoke to their guides or conversed with their guides through writing.

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Now as a writer, you get really familiar with your voice, but most of us sort of know how we speak and how we write ourselves. And so there was a little more formal language. There was a syntax that wasn't the way I would've chosen to put a sentence together, those sorts of things. And I honestly don't remember what the message was.

I think it was basically, Hey, hello. But it was so clearly not me. It was a life changing moment. And I still use that method pretty often, even though I've come to communicate with my guides in all sorts of ways. So, I wanna turn to Sophia now, and I would love to hear how you began to get messages from beyond, let’s call it that for now.

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I was 19, he was 27, and he was working on his universal concept of the universe. And I was a party girl, but there was an incredible attraction. And one of the issues was, so far, I had bought my mother's concept of no sex until marriage.

And all of a sudden, I'm like, you know what?

This is working for me very well. And I thought, what if I don't get married? Which I really didn't want to get married. I thought, Am I gonna die a virgin? You know? And anyway, so, I was having real troubles with that.

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And what he told me was, no, that symbolizes a part of you should die because it's not working for you and opening for the new. And of course, he was the one, and it was the most amazing experience that these two issues were resolved with the help of this man. And then, like, we just fell apart.

I mean, it was four months and he was like this angel that came in helped me. And then there he went and I thought, wait a second. This is really weird because two issues I could not find a solution to were solved and I was transformed.

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And I found it kind of annoying. And then 10 years ago, oh, and a medium had told me I was gonna write a book. I did not wanna write a book. Absolutely not. And, and I think that's the crux of why I decided to write the book, is because I didn't wanna get married.

I didn't want children and I did not wanna write a book. And normally we are told that we should manifest our desires. You know, thoughts become things. But I have come to believe that we don't always know what's the best for us. You know, there's a higher power that knows better than we do.

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And I argued with her and I said, “Absolutely not.” I said, I have nothing to say. And I said I'm a people person, I'm not gonna sequester myself somewhere and write a book. Though out of the picture and she just looked at me and when I finished, I remember this word for word. She said, “Spirit says when she's ready, there are many spirits here to help her and many hands on earth.”

lady. And so, so, so, it was: 2011

laurin: Mm-hmm.

Sopia: And when I turned 60, This miracle happened.

And I was introduced to this beautiful young woman from Turkey who ended up at a homeless shelter for youth, and through my mentor father Steven, and we adopted her. She had just turned 19.

laurin: Mm-hmm.

And something clicked. And I [: 00:08:00

But the miracles that I've experienced is an inordinate amount. And I meditated on it, and I, came to the why, why these things happened to me, and that is when I decided to share it with everyone.

laurin: Okay. Alright.

Sopia: That's how the book came about.

laurin: Cool. Cool. So, let's talk about miracles for a minute. Cause I know that not everybody has the same definition of what a miracle is. Not everybody believes that miracles happen. I happen to believe in them.

So, talk a little bit about that. I know that you have a number of atheists, you told me in your sphere of influence, and that they have a very different kind of definition of what you call a miracle.

So just give us a little bit of, information about that.

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And then that's where it stays. Or you take action. You call the person that you heard their name seven times.

laurin: Yeah.

Sopia: You, you know, take action and then you might get the miracle. And I, have some examples. But the atheist so, the title of the book kind of gives an overview to your listener of what this is about.

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So, the book, because it's a memoir, it's basically chronological, but there are two chapters. One is titled, Please, which is about prayer. And the other one is, Thank you about gratitude. And I am at a point where all day long I'm in constant gratitude. I just, I can't thank God enough, but then I can't stop getting stuff and, and it's just how can this be?

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All of these external things were a result of my all-powerful mind and I manifested them and then I cleverly seized upon the opportunity and I have no business crediting God. So there.

laurin: Okay. So, can you give us examples of your miracles?

Sopia: Yes, I'm going to give you an example that I would consider to be insignificant and one to be significant.

laurin: Okay.

And then everybody can weigh [: 00:12:00

And, my eye was all shut and goopy and I cleaned it and, it just wouldn't go away. And I went to the ophthalmologist and he said, oh, it's a chalazion, which is caused by a blocked oil gland. So, he says, what we're gonna do is we're going to slash it. I'm like, okay, okay.

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And I'm like, What? So, I had this patch for eight months

laurin: Oh gosh.

Sopia: And it was Easter time. I'm Greek Orthodox. So during Holy week on Wednesday, we go to church for holy unction.

laurin: Mm-hmm.

Sopia: And I have always absolutely loved this ritual. And my mother had said, well, you know you are in line and the priest anoints you with oil.

laurin: Hm.

's at night. It's an evening [: 00:14:00

And my friend who was the organist was going to give me a ride home.

Cuz I lived about two miles, and it was 10 o'clock or so, I'm in line, and all of a sudden, for no reason, I started to get butterflies in my stomach. Like I was going to like meet my idol or something. Like something, and I'm thinking, what is this? You know, I've done this a million times. And the closer I got, the more this feeling just increased.

strophobic. Like I needed to [: 00:15:00

So I said, Bula, I said, I have to tell you something. I'm gonna walk. She goes, Oh no you're not. Because I would be going through a dicey neighborhood. She said, “You are not walking.” And I say, oh yeah, just listen. I'm gonna walk and I guarantee you nothing is going to happen to me. So I walked home. I couldn't wipe the smile off my face.

I just felt like I was floating. And I go home, go to bed, and the first thing I noticed when I woke up was the annoying eyelid was no longer annoying. So I touched it, and there it was gone.

laurin: Oh, wow.

Sopia: I went to the mirror and there was just a little pink, like just little pink this, you know, color.

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Okay.

laurin: Yeah. And you had all that other sensation.

Sopia: Yes, yes. Now the insignificant one is kind of fun. I had started writing the book, and even though my faith is unshakeable, I needed to know how these things can happen on earth. And so, I decided I was going to study quantum mechanics.

laurin: Mm.

Sopia: And I got the book, I got Steven Hawkin’s book on grand design.

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So I get an email from the Institute of Contemporary Art, which is just a few blocks away from my house. I'm not a member. Why are they sending me this? Which of course, because I was wondering how they got my contact information that kind of made me open the email. Okay. So that's a clue.

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I just, without even thinking, you know, I call 'em up and I, said, So what is the person that's sitting on the couch do? I mean, can they read? She said, Oh, that's what the artist wants you to do. I said, how many times can I do? She goes, 10. I said, Sign me up for 10 times. And I sat on that couch and read the book.

I had notes. I took notes. And if that's how much time I needed to, cuz I had to read over maybe two or three times, you know, And I got exactly what I needed in the most. I mean, I'll tell you, God has a sense of humor and I, I prove it over and over again.

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Sopia: , I opened the email. I read the email, I picked up the phone and I said yes. So that, as far as definitions for a miracle, you're familiar with the Course of Miracles?

laurin: I've never read it, but I know of it for sure.

Sopia: Well, what the Course of Miracle says is that, well, there's only one definition.

They give only one definition of a miracle. And that's a change of perception for the greater good. So, like 40 years ago, I was a proponent for capital punishment, kill 'em, get 'em off the streets. Now the thought…

laurin: Mm-hmm.

Sopia: I can't digest the thought. I can't, how can you kill someone because they killed someone?

You know? I mean, I'm a completely different, I have a different frame.

laurin: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Your whole perspective has changed.

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They gave me exactly what I needed. So that's my takeaway.

laurin: Mm-hmm.

Sopia: And the sheer amount of miracles. When I first sat down to do the book, I listed all my coincidences and all my miracles, and they were just too numerous to cram into one book. So I plucked all the ones that had to do with death.

everyone. I, truly, I'm not, [: 00:21:00

I'm an ordinary person.

laurin: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Sopia: That just learned something early on.

Wars for the very first time,: 1977

That's what I believe right there. That's what I believe. So I had early inklings, but I didn't really have, I had too much other work I had to do before I could, you know, really dive into.

Sopia: Yeah. That, that was your, you understood what a higher power was.

laurin: Mm-hmm. and that we're all connected.

Sopia: Interconnected.

laurin: You know, it's, Yeah. Yeah. That was the big one for me.

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Like why would I, why do people smoke this stuff? You know?

laurin: Yeah. I can't do that.

Sopia: So I’m gonna watch it again. But you know what, another movie, it's actually one of my favorite movies that gives the same lesson is crash.

laurin: Ooh, I haven't seen that one. Crash?

Sopia: Crash. And I watched it when it first came out. It was not your like, headliner blockbuster, you know. And I watched this movie and I thought, oh my God, people have to go see this movie.

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laurin: Alright. I'm gonna have to go look that one up. I hope it's on Netflix or something. So I've never, never seen it. Never heard of it that I remember anyway. There's something that keeps coming into my head as you're talking about the process you go through of, like with the email, you, you noticed it, you opened it, you said yes.

You gathered information, you said yes. You used that in this perfect way to do something you'd been struggling to get done. I have something that I refer to as ripe r i p e time. So the time is ripe for whatever's gonna happen or lately, divine right timing is, my new iteration of that DRT.

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Sopia: First of all, that should be a title of your next book.

laurin: Okay. Devine Right Timing. Got it. I hadn't thought about that.

Sopia: Well again, what you're, what you're saying is that a bigger intelligence knows.

laurin: Yep.

Sopia: What you need and when you need it. And then another sort of big thing I think that I write about in my book. I weave it through the book. It's people have winced through it.

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And he would go, what time would you like me to take you? You know, I, I, I like, I like that quality about him,

laurin: Yeah. Yeah.

Sopia: However, I discovered pretty soon into months into our relationship that he was a rager.

laurin: Oh,

Sopia: He had huge, huge anger problems. But he had so many good qualities that I really thought, look, plus he was a fantastic cook.

And so to me it's like,

laurin: That's always a good thing.

Sopia: You know what, we can fix this, right? We can fix this. I write about, I mean like, we would go on romantic getaways and he would sabotage it.

laurin: Mm.

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And I mean, he became their poster boy. But still, I mean, he learned some tools, but he would still do this. And then one day I just said, no, I'm leaving. No, to this. I've done. So I went to live with a friend and that is really weird how that came to be cuz she was a friend of a friend and how she popped up and she was going through a divorce and she asked me if I could come and live with her.

laurin: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Sopia: She had this palatial home. So we were parked for about six months. But we would talk, like I would go pick things up from the house and then I don't know what he did. Oh, my friend had a party and he came and he knew that it was a Dressup party and he came with a Hawaiian shirt.

he also, he got angry and I [: 00:27:00

laurin: Mm-hmm. what you need. Yep.

Sopia: What I needed.

And I'm like, Oh my God, I am so free of that jerk. And now I can go and open the book because there's nothing the book can say that, I'm not gonna wanna hear. So I opened the book to a chapter called The Healed Relationship, and I'm like, no. But the no, the deal is you have to, no matter what comes across, you have to read it.

ut of it was, we're all one. [: 00:28:00

I, Okay, I'm gonna, doesn’t hurt to just, just talk to him. Okay? Next day he calls and he wants to meet with me. And I said, Okay, so we made up a date for Tuesday and now maybe I shouldn't say what happened so people can go, right, get the book

laurin: Yeah. Don't give away the whole story.

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And he says to me in this voice filled with humility, he said, well, I have a miracle for you too. And I'm not gonna tell you what it is. Okay. So that was the second big coincidence. Okay? The first was the chapter, the book chapter. The second was what Frank, and it was so dramatic that it managed to disarm me. It managed to disarm me, which was another miracle.

laurin: Yeah. Yeah.

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And I just made a decision. I thought, no, these two amazing coincidences that happened. It's poised for success.

laurin: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

to a healer. And that was in: 2009

And I am married to my dream companion. There has been not one episode, he's become very spiritual. I mean, how does that work?

laurin: Yeah. So you were part to his awakening.

s me is my will. My will was [: 00:31:00

laurin: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Sopia: And that's basically my message.

laurin: Yeah. Yeah. Lovely. Well, I can't wait to read the whole thing. I've read the introduction and I can say from that that you are an excellent writer. I really enjoy your voice and you hooked me right with that. So I will be reading this I'm gonna change tax now and take us to the rapid fire questions that I do with all my guests.

These are just for fun and whatever comes to the top of your head when you hear the question, that's the answer. All right,

Sopia: Okay.

laurin: They're easy. So who is or was the wisest person in your life?

Sopia: Two people, my mother and Buckminster Fuller.

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Sopia: There's a big, the way that came about is beyond miracle, and I write about it.

laurin: Okay, good. Good. Cuz I was like, I know that name. All right. So is there anything particular about, let's go with Buckminster Fuller since he's the, the more famous one. Is there anything about him that stays with you in terms of wisdom?

Sopia: Oh, wisdom is the perfect word for him. I mean, he's a modern-day Leonardo DaVinci, so he dabbles. What was given to me was a very long poem. It was in one book, it was like 38 pages or something called No Secondhand God. One of the most spiritually deep thing I had ever read. And I was 23 at the time and he became my idol.

laurin: Cool. What's your favorite self-care practice?

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laurin: Doesn't have to be.

Sopia: Okay. It's New York Times puzzles on a, on a daily basis.

laurin: I love puzzles too. I do all kinds of puzzles. I've always loved puzzles, and I kind of …

Sopia: It's, it's like a shower for the brain.

laurin: Yeah. And it's very much part of my self-care practice, though. I really hadn't framed it in that way, because I do them to kind of quiet my mind and it quiets my nervous system, and it also just sort of keeps me, it's a very focused activity, so I love it.

So, yay. We share that. What lights you up when you're feeling down? And it can be a who too. It can be a what or a who.

Sopia: So many things. I would say my husband's humor.

laurin: Humor is very healing and uplifting. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And do you have a favorite mantra or affirmation?

Sopia: Yes. You [: 00:34:00

laurin: Oh, that's perfect. I love that. And so true.

Sopia: It works.

laurin: So true. Huh? Okay, great. Thank you,

Sopia: It was

laurin: It wasn't so hard was it?

Sopia: No, it wasn’t.

laurin: And I learned something new about my own Selfcare and that's part of why I love doing this, cuz I always get to learn from these wise people that I have on.

Sopia: And that, those were good ones.

laurin: Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what I'm gonna do with him yet, but I asked them of everybody and I always enjoy the answers.

So tell us the best place for our listeners to find you online.

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laurin: Cool. So not too far away, in book terms is not that far away.

Sopia: Yes. Right. Mm-hmm.

laurin: And you have a free book that you are offering.

Sopia: Yes.

laurin: A single, a single copy, I wanna say.

Sopia: I am going to give a book away. Let's say that the first person who goes onto my website and subscribes with their email, then I will email them and get their address and information and send them a signed copy of my book.

laurin: Excellent. Excellent. I love that, let me tell you, just from the little bit I've read of it, that is a huge gift to whoever gets it. And, I'm a book lover and I'm getting so many great books from people I'm talking to that I'm gonna be reading for the whole next year.

Sopia: Have you gotten to the photographs?

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It's just, you hooked me with your introduction,

Sopia: Oh, thank you. I wanna know your take.

laurin: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Alright, well it's been so much fun having you here today. Thank you for joining us.

Sopia: Oh, it's been so much fun.

laurin: Maybe when the next book comes out, we'll have you back

I've already followed you on Amazon, so I'll know when the book comes out. So I wanna thank the listeners for joining us today too. I hope you learn something. You picked up a little nugget of wisdom you enjoyed our laughter and our sharing.

And I invite you to come back next week. We put out a new episode every Tuesday. In the meantime, I hope you have a wonderful week and enjoy the light.

fabulous conversations. And [: 00:37:00

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