Unlocking Life's Mysteries Through Vibrational Astrology with Michael Spremulli

Interview Episode with Michael Spremulli

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Now you're aware of it. And now you can determine, am I letting myself get too far into the weeds to really make this something extraordinary?

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I think I've said that right.

Michael: Very good.

Laurin: Let me tell you a little bit about him. Michael's approach to astrology is both unique and practical. He combines his expertise as a therapist and a workplace personality expert. With modern cutting edge, scientifically validated astrology interpretation techniques.

Welcome to Curiously Wise, Michael.

Michael: Thanks so much for having me. I am excited to be

Laurin: Yeah. Yeah. This is, this is great. So I want to, I know that you call the kind of astrology you do vibrational astrology.

Michael: That's correct.

Laurin: So one of the epiphanies I've had over the last year when I've been working with my own, you know, energy, and I've been doing this for probably close to 10 years now, but, but I suddenly realized that the reason astrology makes sense.

I have an engineering husband who likes logic, is because everything is vibration, everything is energy, everything vibrates, and

Michael: Interview is over. I can go home

Laurin: how could, [: 00:02:00

Michael: because you just, you just summed it up. And, and it's not the type of vibrational astrology that, that I call it. It is a recognized System of astrology that has a tremendous amount of scientific controlled study data behind it. And you're right at the core of vibrational astrology.

Why is it called V. A. Or vibrational strategy because it's about How the planetary energies vibrate within us and just like in music, when you combine certain planetary energies in a music, it's notes, you get different outcomes. That's sort of like the thumbnail definition of what VA is. We don't focus on archetypes.

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And what we found and find in VA is that all of those things And coexist. It's not a dichotomist. Well, I'm a scientist, so I can't believe in spirituality. I'm spiritual. So science goes out the window. No, it all inter fits together and vibrates in different resonances. And and that's the crux of, of what VA is all about.

Laurin: Okay. I love the music analogy. I use that a lot when talking about how vibration affects us. And it, it feels to me like what you're talking about is the planet alignment is that it's a particular chord, you know? And, and that's going to be,

l astrology, a lot of folks, [: 00:04:00

You're right. They're not. But in astrology, we refer to them as such where. In various combinations or aspects, which is a fancy astrological term, which means two or more celestial bodies are forming an angular relationship. Now you're in a resonance and then you get the energy from those planets manifesting.

So in short, each planet in vibrational astrology regulates one particular energy process. Now, Let's take Saturn, for example, and I don't know how much knowledge you have about astrology. And if it's none, that's

Laurin: Zero.

's all right. Because that's [: 00:05:00

But let me give you a traditional versus VA interpretation of the planet Saturn. Traditional astrology, people say, Oh, Saturn is the wise old man in the chart. And, and there are certainly some qualities of the wise old man. It's not going to play around. It's going to get down to business. It may take away our toys.

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We look at what is the raw energy of the planet. And that is where the archetypes ultimately get built out from. But when we look at what each planet is responsible for, it helps simplify things from the standpoint of at least understanding where things are coming from. So for Saturn, for example, the energy that Saturn's all about is Saturn cuts things to the bone.

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There are things that support claims and look like it's, it's moving the needle. But at the same point to make the fact statement. Different situation. But anyways, it in V. A. The idea is that when these planetary energies and we'll just take Saturn, for example, is activated in our charts. That's like right through us.

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Oh, well, now we have two different energies that we're working with. So those are the building blocks of VA that interact with one another that create this very intricate tapestry. And one of the things that I love about VA is that it helps us get to what the client is asking about and the core issues.

Quickly, we're able to figure out because of the dominant vibrations in someone's chart where the most energy is wired to free flow. And that gets us to the core of the matter a lot more efficiently and much more precisely as well.

Laurin: Nice. Okay. That was a great explanation.

Michael: Thank you.

Laurin: And you already answered 1 of my other questions. So you had offered to do a little bit of a reading for me or to look at my chart. I guess the way to say it.

Michael: Reading chart consultation, however you want to phrase it.

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Michael: Sure. So a couple of criteria before we do this, I've obviously got your birth data and we're not going to disclose that. So we know that and that does that come from a certified birth document of some type, or is that from memory?

Laurin: Everything but the time comes from a certified document and the time was what I found in the baby book.

Michael: Okay, so that's usually usually pretty good. So if I was doing a hardcore one on one with you, we really, really would want to get that as accurate as possible. And we encourage you to get the birth certificate. And the reason why I mean, birth time is important in all astrology, but especially in vibrational astrology, because when we get up into these higher vibrations, a.

k. a. Okay. Octaves, the time could throw things off dramatically if it's off by a lot, but for our example here today, and just as sort of like an illustration, we're going to be working with the lower vibration. So that time should be fine.

Laurin: Okay.

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I mean, this is not what I like to be a is not performance astrology. I can certainly do that where it's like, you know, blow your mind and tell you that you had this when you were a child, but we can certainly do that, but it's a discussion. So if I ask you a question, all I want you to do is, is respond to it honestly, as comfortable as you feel in front of, you know, 10 million people

Laurin: hmm.

Michael: this and and we'll go from there.

So if all of those things are cool, then we will we shall dive in. All right, so I'm not even going to start in VA Everything's important, but not to the same level of intensity. So it's all about planets for us, planetary energy signs have a little bit of importance. Oh my gosh. What did you say? Yes.

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A. Charts. And that's what we start with. So I'm looking right now at your 5th vibration chart. Now, the 5th vibration and think of each vibration as a container. Or a bucket or whatever you want it. So everything's happening inside of this 5th vibration that I'm about to speak to and each vibration has its own theme.

So it brings another layer of energy that everything kind of gets wrapped up around. So the 5th vibration is about. Free flowing, creative energy, almost like a child at play. So anything that's aspecting inside of the fifth vibration, theoretically should flow to you easily. It shouldn't be hard work.

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That's the energy we're talking about in fifth five. So you've got three planets that I see right out of the gate that are connecting. And I'll do teaching as we go back and forth on this, this way that for those listeners who have knowledge in astrology. They'll be able to connect the dots, and if you don't have any knowledge, that's cool.

You'll, you'll have enough to understand what we're talking about as I go through this. So, inside in any astrology aspects are where the magic happens, and aspects are simply when planets connect to each other to form a circuit, there are different type of aspects that have different qualities. Not gonna get into all that.

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What does that mean? Well, now we go and break down the planets and I'm going to do this first one rather slowly. So you can see how this builds up. And then when we look at some of your other charts, We'll move at a more brisk pace, but I'm really big on teaching. You know, I think, can I get on a soapbox for just 30 seconds here?

Laurin: Go for it.

Michael: So, you know, there's a lot of practitioners out there in the metaphysical space, the healing world and all this sort of stuff. And, and that's great. Sometimes though, rules aren't followed. You can't just have a free for all in spirituality. We live in a universe where there are rules, cosmic rules, rules of physics.

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And it's very much standardized. So, I like to show my work, as they say, you know, from back in school. So, Moon. Venus, Jupiter. Well, the moon regulates our past, our feelings, our emotions, anything that has a history to it. The moon has a connection to so people who tend to want to work with others in a counseling format.

Or in helping professions, psychologists, anthropologists, sociology, all that stuff is tied up with the moon and it regulates our habit habits and our patterns emotions, et cetera. Well, you have the moon connecting with Venus. Well, Venus is what we're attracted to. It's not just romance. It actually regulates the process of how we are attracted to something.

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Think of people who overextend their monthly budgets because they buy things that aren't needed and then they run out of money. So Jupiter, by and large, the energy is mostly positive, but it depends on what it's aspecting with. So here's where the magic happens. We combine the meanings of all three of those planets.

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So if I was doing this in a, in a one on one, it's, it's, you've got big ideas. Yeah, I honestly, I don't know much about you. I don't look up my hosts. I do a lot of these. So I really know very little about your work, only just from the interchange that we've had. So you've got the ability and the circuitry to To create these big ideas that are attractive to other people that involve feelings and emotions.

, and because it's in the fifth vibration. This flows to you. So I imagine you get all sorts of inspirational ideas and big play like, well, you know, I could bring this to my people.

I can maybe do a workshop or I can do something where we're having people you know, all contribute to a community literary work or something like that. Does that creative expansive energy, is that fun for you? Is that part of who you are?

Laurin: Yeah. I can, I can [: 00:17:00

Michael: Well, it's, it's interesting that you said that because. Mars is not present here. It is another sections of your chart. Mars is what makes things happen. So you just set this up beautifully. The beautiful thing is you got all these ideas. In the fifth vibration, but you got to execute them so we can look to the other vibrations to see where that happens the most easily, but you have no shortage of beautiful ideas.

All right. So that's the, that's the, that's the fifth vibration and those flow to you. You probably have more ideas in a day than most people forget in a year.

Laurin: Wow. Okay.

Michael: What, because it just flows. I mean, do you, and, and, all right, so let's, let's move to the seventh vibration because here's where the meat of this really starts for me.

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So the first one we look at is Mercury, Mars, and Saturn. What do we got here? Pluto. Okay. So Mercury, Mars, Pluto. Now Mercury connects thoughts and ideas. So now we've got ideas here, front and center. When you're in this quiet internal focus, remember the vibration gets served by the planetary energies. So right out of the gate, I'm going to ask you, you probably, when you're doing deep work, you need to be alone and away from other people.

Laurin: You nailed that one. That's the one thing I complained about. It's like, I just need, I need everybody to go away for

t work. Okay. So we start to [: 00:19:00

I can do that. Okay. But that nothing's going to happen unless you get into your seventh vibration. Okay. Which is a deep, quiet, internal focus, and then activate the energy or, or, or express the energy that's naturally there. So Mercury is the thoughts and ideas. Mars is then connected with Mercury. Mars is the planet of action.

So the only way, I don't want to say the only way, but I should say the most efficient way, for you to be able to bring these ideas to life, Is if you're quiet and calm and still, because if you're having these ideas while you're in the middle of a major big box store, they're going to come and go just as quickly and you're not going to be able to do anything with it.

esn't do much. I know that's [: 00:20:00

So Pluto can make things obsessive and compulsive wherever it aspects. So what is it aspecting with you? Mercury and Mars. So would it be a fair statement to say that when you carve out time to do the work that you got to do, then it's like Full system ahead and you're getting all sorts of work done

Laurin: Yes. Absolutely.

Michael: in that calm environment.

say, no, this isn't going to [: 00:21:00

You know, people who pull a lot of all miters will often have Pluto and Mars connected. We're just going to get through this. I'm going to chug through. All right. So we've got that going on. Well, you have another trine, which trines are very reflowing type of energy and you have Mars is also connected in this trine.

Uranus And again. So Pluto is activated with so, so I think I may have wrote in an email to you. I don't know if you saw it as we were setting this up. You get things done and you can be quite confused. Intense because Uranus is about breaking out of the norm. Uranus wants to live in the moment. The energy associated with the planet Uranus is not worried about the past, not worried about the future.

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And where do you channel it? In the seventh vibration. Deep, quiet, calm, internal focus. If we put you at a Starbucks to work, forget about it. You're going to be looking over here and seeing people coming and Ooh, that coffee smells good. What's that new drink? You get distracted. But that deep, quiet internal focus is critical.

I would say from at least an astrological standpoint, you can give me your feedback in a second for you to be productive. So we can take someone like you who needs that quiet, calm focus. And if you were working in an office environment where there was a bullpen, forget it. Productivity is going to go way down because it's just not a good fit.

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Through you. We have more circuits than we can ever use in our lifetime in our base and vibrational charts. So there may be times when these circuits are flipped on and off, or you might say, well, yeah, that was me 20 years ago, but that's not me now. All right. That's cool. Whatever it is, I don't get offended or upset if you say now that that doesn't fit because truth is, it does fit.

But it may not fit right now in this isolated context. So tell me about that. Does the seventh vibe in these planets that are aspect in here? How does that describe the way that you like to operate?

Laurin: Yeah, it's I have always been a loner. I mean, I have friends, but I

you bring up an interesting [: 00:24:00

Is that there's a lot of crowbarring and or cherry picking going on where all this can mean this, this, this, this, this, this and that. Well, when we go back to this energetic model, it keeps us in line because we're focusing on the energy. So I'm sorry. I said I was going to zip it. I am.

Laurin: That's what I said. This is a free flowing conversation. So

Michael: it's a five

Laurin: we roll.

the host style is different. [: 00:25:00

Okay. That's cool. I prefer this because I've got a pretty strong five vibe. You do. And, but anyways, back to that's the third time I've interrupted you. So I

Laurin: okay. The only the only piece that you said that that I would just add a caveat to I, my husband and I have both worked from home for years. He's home part time, but I'm home full time and had two kids for a while and a dog and you know. And I had met, this is when I was was writing novels cause I met.

I don't write them anymore, but I was a

Michael: Oh, isn't that interesting? Because we're going to get to something in your 17th vibration that actually is kind of related to that.

hat we did is we had a rule. [: 00:26:00

I always had binaural beats in my ears.

Michael: there you go. So, so it's so what you did was you created. lively, you transformed that environment from a more lively, upbeat environment, like, you know, a set five or an 11 vibe to one that is a seven by putting the earphones in. And that's a lot different than going there and and you probably went off someplace on the periphery where you weren't in the thick of things.

Yeah. So, so you were both doing your 7th vibe. And it was a way to create that focus time. You can be, you don't have to go lock yourself in a closet someplace. It's, you can see people if you go to a bookstore and they're just immersed in the book and people walking around and stuff's falling off the shelves.

And they're like, they're in that seven vibe space.

Laurin: Hmm.

Michael: So

Laurin: Yeah, but [: 00:27:00

Michael: Yeah,

Laurin: you nailed it.

Michael: it's pretty wild stuff, which is why I like this form of astrology because you can get to where you need to go very, very quickly. Now, let me look at a couple of other things here. Now I'm looking at your hang on a second here. What I'm doing is I'm flipping through charts. All right, let's talk about the 13th vibration.

And by the way, the vibrations go up into the hundreds. We've got solid, solid research on the first 32 really solid. There's more research coming out on the ones that go above it. That go above 32. We have some ideas on what some of them mean more. So more some than others. And the idea is, I want to just give a general term here when you start to get into the vibrations above, well, let's just say for our discussion here, 32, it probably is a little lower, but.

more internally. Some people [: 00:28:00

So the 13th vibration. Is about. Not settling for mediocre. Anyone who has a strong 13th vibe and you do, cause you've got several things going on. A 13 vibration is about wanting to rise out of mediocrity and hit the next level and differentiate ourselves. And it's not about ego being the reason behind that.

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That's cool. I've got activity and other vibrations. We don't have all the same vibrations with a lot of planets aspect. And that's what makes us all unique as individuals. So for you, as I'm looking at your 13th vibration, you have mercury, Mars and Saturn all connected in the 13th vibration. All right. So now we go back to building the interpretation out.

Mercury connects thoughts and ideas. Mercury enables you to say, Oh, that color blue is different from this color blue, or this looks like it may be on sale. And it has the same ingredient connection of ideas. So wherever thought is involved, all right, Takes everything out. Remember the, the definition is consistent.

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Is that When, when you're dealing with and we're not talking fiction here, although we could, I suppose because when we see this mercury Saturn connection, it's about distilling things down into their pure meaning without a lot of fluff.

Laurin: Hmm.

Michael: And then you have one other planet down here. You got Mars and Mars is the planet of action.

So that now here's where your action happens. Remember we saw in one of the earlier vibrations, it was the fifth, I think we got lots of ideas, but you know, not every idea is going to come to fruition. Okay. That's fine. Well, your 13th vibration is where you figure out what's important. What's not important.

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Laurin: Yeah. It's kind of my downfall at times that I, I don't, I don't settle for. Okay. . Mm-Hmm.

Michael: so, and so, so let's talk about that. One of the things that VA helps us do is realize where the energy flows the most freely. So being aware of this, and obviously you're aware of that before you met me, but some folks, everyone's at different levels of self awareness. And when people have that, ah, moment, what I would say to them, if I was working with them individually would be okay, so that may be a downfall.

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Laurin: I have a mantra I've been using for about the last year that is done is better than perfect.

Michael: Yeah, exactly. So now this Mercury Saturn Mars situation will play out completely differently in another vibration, but because the 13 vibe is looking about looking at where we want, how we want to excel beyond the ordinary, the interpretation of that. Is nuanced because of the vibration it's in. So let me jump to your seven.

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A strong 17th vibration when people are actors and in theater because they have to embody the role of someone else and really walk in their shoes. So, right out of the gate, I can tell that you're highly empathic and just get people. Not saying that you like everybody because, you know, none of us do, but you can understand and appreciate where someone's coming from, even if they're not treating you the best way.

hey got a sick parent or kid [: 00:34:00

Well, well, let's see how it's going to get manifested for you. So you've got three planets connecting here, sun, Neptune, Saturn connecting inside of the 17th vibration. So Neptune is what is magical to you. And that differs for everybody. But the underlying energy of Neptune is in traditional astrology, it's, well, they're spacey.

They're spiritual. Sometimes that may be the case, but the underlying energy is Neptune. Neptune's process regulates what is magical to us. The simplest explanation in the U S at least is a lot of people view money as the magical solution, because with money I can travel, I can do this. All right. So that's, that's the real baseline interpretation, but let's go beyond that.

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I have no idea what is magical to you, but I can tell you that because you're in the 17th vibration and you have Neptune and Saturn and sun altogether, whatever magic you're pursuing. And whatever your ideal is, and this can be work life, home life, because remember energy is energy, how we apply it is what makes it different, is that you want the purest form of that magic possible.

So looking at this, I'm going to say a place like Las Vegas probably makes your skin crawl.

Laurin: And my husband loves that

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Laurin: Yeah. Or go into the Red Rock

Michael: or go into Red Rock

Laurin: Yeah. That's, that was my,

Michael: to you.

Laurin: that was one of my things about one trip we took out there. I said, okay, I'll go, but we have to take two days in the middle of the week and go out into the Red Rocks.

Michael: There you go. So, so let's bring this all back full circle. The sun, by the way, which I hadn't spoken much about, you know, the sun and moon are sort of like air and water. We take them for granted. We really do. Because the sun and moon regulate our relationship to time. The sun shows us what's happening in the current moment, and the moon reflects the past into the present moment.

that's the mass of the sun, [: 00:37:00

I mean, sometimes we do, but when the sun is involved, it makes it front and center in our lives. There's nothing mystical about the sun. The energy is not hidden. It's like it's clear and present. So the sun, I like to describe it as a lighthouse shining its light on whatever else it's aspecting with. And for you, it's Neptune, what is magical and Saturn, which is what's pure in the 17th vibration.

So now here's where it's like, well, how does all this fit together? The 17th vibration is about viewing the world through someone else's perspective. So your ability to focus on what is purely magical and exciting for you has a connection to your ability to impact others. Now, I don't know exactly how that plays out.

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Laurin: I'm an energetic healer.

Michael: Okay, so I did not I did not know that about you. Okay, so well, then that's pretty damn important to

Laurin: Yeah. Yeah. That, that's like my, my happy place is when I'm helping other people to let go of things and I can see those things and help them,

just shared that. So, people [: 00:39:00

Every field has, you know, what I referred to as the parasites. They learn a couple of things, and then they go out there talking as if it's gospel, and then you ask them some depth on it, and it's like, Oh, I don't know. So you, you know, No glitz, no glimmer. Let's get down to work. You're in your happy place because it's magical to you.

It's in the 17th vibe. So you're able to then connect to other people. You see how all this integrates.

Laurin: And it is seriously my happy place

Michael: and it and it and it's your happy

Laurin: and it's magical. Yeah.

Michael: you know, you put all these things together, and it's it's pretty interesting. All right. Let me let me let me let me let me stop there.

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If the question of the focus isn't about community or where you feel at home, if it's more you know, about figuring, you know, what is what does my career look like community may be a part of that, but there are other places where we direct the attention.

Laurin: yeah, yeah.

Michael: So Have you ever let me ask you this.

Have you had an astrological consultation or reading with anyone before? Okay, because I was going to ask how this was different from that, but that's cool. And keep in mind this. This isn't even scratching the surface. We're kind of just jumping in cold here is a product. What I generally do when I'm meeting with someone is we'll look.

What is the referral question? And then I'll spend, you know, several hours. The way I do charts is I'll plug in the stuff as soon as I get the birth data. And then I'll look at it immediately because I'm curious, you know, I'm curious, I want to see what I'm working with here. And then I'll look for a few minutes and then let it go.

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Where they may be stuck and then oftentimes people come to me for timing. They want to know well When's the best time to do this and that that's when we start looking at transits Which are what's happening in the sky because they light up different sections of your chart as well And that's where the astrology forecasting comes into play

Laurin: Okay. All right. So, how it, let's say that I was going to come to you, but you hadn't done this for me yet. What would that you saw already told us the beginning of that you would have a conversation and go ahead and do the chart. So, when it comes time Well, one of my things is you, you say that they'll have a question that they want answered.

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Michael: I mean, I, some don't, some people say I've never had my chart done. I want to know what my strengths, opportunities are, where might I've had some rough spots. We can certainly do that, but people generally don't reach out to an astrologer unless something is, you know, Not working well in their life.

Some do, but most people say, Hey, I've got relationship situation, work situation, family. Should I sell the house? Should I not sell the house? Those types of things.

Laurin: So, yeah, so I guess you pretty much described what that would be like then. So I assume you would have a call afterwards or, or eventually with them and go through kind of like you've done with me the pertinent parts.

Michael: Yep. And there's a bunch of other, you know, astrology has a bunch of techniques associated with it. So if you were asking me something down the road, we're going to look at progress charts to see how you've evolved. If we're looking about your destiny or meaning in life, we're going to look at the nodes.

There's all sorts of [: 00:43:00

Laurin: Mm hmm.

Michael: They don't check them all.

Because they're only going to check the ones that are pertinent to your chief complaint.

Laurin: Mm

Michael: I don't use the term chief complaint in astrology, but if we're, if you're coming to me talking about relationship stuff, then I'm going to look at where Venus is in all of your vibrational charts. If you're coming to me to grow, you want to grow your business.

We're going to put emphasis on Jupiter, because Jupiter is the planet of expansion and possibly Uranus and Mars because it gets it done. So, you know, when I have the online intake, I say. I describe in as much detail as you feel comfortable what it is that you want me to focus on, because I don't want to spend 20 minutes talking about your relationships if you're here for business situations.

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Laurin: right. Yeah, I can see that it could get quite complicated

Michael: Well, and

Laurin: don't have some focus.

Michael: People get excited and then it's like, Oh, well, tell me more about that. Oh, and then that's, you know, another idea comes to tell me about this. And then the session's over and we never got to the core thing. So, you know, it's one of the beauties of vibrational astrology, at least for me. And from my perspective is that. It really shines when someone has a very specific question. The more specific the question, the better I'm able to find out what energies are going to interact and relate with that situation. I can certainly do, hey, tell me about my romantic opportunities over the next, you know, 12 months. Yeah, I can certainly do that, but it's almost like you're not really maximizing the benefits of what VA brings to the table.

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Laurin: Huh.

Michael: on what truly matters for the individual.

Laurin: Okay. Wow. This is a lot to take

Michael: I know, I see this is what happens. I get, I've got some strong Uranus placements in my chart, which makes it very intense and lively and jumping around and going from here to there. And, and I realize I'm not For everybody. People often ask me, they said, you know, well, who, how do I select an astrologer?

And the first thing I always says, well, first off, I'm not sure that you should see me. And they kind of scratched their heads. What are you talking about? I said, well, not every astrologers for every person, the energy has to match. There are people that I know they can't watch my stuff online for two seconds because I'm too intense.

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If they're an obnoxious pompous jerk and they're turning you off, then don't have a reading from that

Laurin: Yeah.

Michael: There has to be that connectivity. And I think one of the things, you know, because I'm still, I still have your chart up on the screen here on that 17th vibe. For you, the ability to connect with other people at that level is, I mean, that's your bread and butter.

Laurin: Mm hmm.

Michael: Because it's, it just happens. You're able to build that intimacy and empathy with a person and people feel comfortable and no work gets done unless both parties feel comfortable.

Laurin: Right.

Michael: You know, there have been clients who I've refused to work with. You're just not a good fit for me. Here's your money back. No hard feelings.

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Laurin: Mm

Michael: You can't calculate. Some people swear that you can, not from the data that I've seen. And, you know, it's important to look at what vibrational astrology and other types and other systems can do versus what they can't do, because everything has its limitations and it's certainly not a panacea.

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Astrologer and and having that connection that that energetic connection feeling like it's a good fit is important. And I, I don't want to work with people who are not a good fit for me because I won't be effective for them.

Michael: No, plus it drains your energy.

Laurin: Yes, it does. Okay.

Michael: just love the show. It's a comedy. What we do in the shadows. It's about a bunch of fictitious vampires that live in New Jersey. It is hysterical and you meet all sorts of characters. You meet ghouls and you meet ghosts and trolls and all this stuff.

But there's this one character in there that he's. An energy vampire, meaning when he's around people, he talks like this. This is his base and he, you can almost feel the energy being sucked out of you when you're listening to this fictitious character speak. So yeah, you want to avoid energy drains in, in any context because that doesn't serve anyone.

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Michael: I think I, to pull everything together, vibrational astrology is not replacing other forms of astrology and some astrologers mistake that. All VA does is we're looking, because we wouldn't have VA unless you had these other systems that have come before it for the past 2, 000 years. VA just looks to blend the spiritual along with the scientific.

And we're seeing now in quantum physics,

Laurin: Mm hmm.

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So we're talking about real. Data. This is not just, you know, sunshine stuff. We're looking at midpoints and angular distances. There's a lot of science and geometry behind the scenes that the client doesn't end up seeing because they don't want to hear about that. So my job is to then explain. This complicated infrastructure of information in a way that people can understand it.

And if you're curious, I invite you to dive in deeper because it's a fascinating world.

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Michael: Oh, absolutely. So the, the easiest place I live in the Blue Ridge mountains. So Blue Ridge astrology. com is the website. And from there is where you can get to everything that is the same moniker Blue Ridge astrology, Blue Ridge astrology. On tiktok or I post daily socials as well as Facebook and Instagram.

So pick the platform of your choice. And I am offering for your listeners a 20 percent discount code for any live personal consultation with me. And that will be able to be entered in at checkout. And that code is.

Laurin: Curiosity.

Michael: There you are. So Blue Ridge astrology. com more information. If you got questions, shoot me a note.

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Laurin: And I did, I did go on and I think Instagram and, and maybe Facebook. I, I mixed them up, but I saw that you do a pretty regular.

Michael: every day. So, so what I do, can we talk about forecast for 30 seconds?

Laurin: Yeah. Yeah. Go for it.

Michael: So, you know, people say, well, horoscopes, are they nonsense, are they this, are they that? Here's the deal with dailies, or horoscopes, or forecasts, or whatever you want to call them. I can only tell you how I do it.

What I'm looking at are the dominant vibrational energy patterns of the day. Are some people going to be affected more or less by these? Of course! It always comes down to what's in your natal chart. So I always tell people not so eloquently. If you make any major life decisions from my forecast or anyone else's, you're an idiot because it's not designed for that.

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And I do them every day without fail. I've had COVID and continue to record them through that because I think they're important. And people can see how they have, you can go back and look at previous ones and see how those have impacted you based on certain times. So yeah, they're, they're fun to do, but don't make any major decisions based on a forecast.

Laurin: And more free, more free ways to see how all of this

Michael: Yeah, absolutely. I give a lot of stuff away for free. I really do. And I'm very interactive with people who ask questions. I got to make a living, but at the same point, you know, I respond to comments all the time in the forecast. So

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And this was a big learning for me. So I really appreciate it.

Michael: so much, Laurin. I always love talking astrology. People say, you know, if you only got two minutes, what do you talk about astrology? What about two days? Astrology? It's just a matter of how deep we go. So it's been a pleasure to be here and I appreciate the opportunity to share this with your listeners.

Laurin: Yeah. Okay. So I'm going to say goodbye to our listeners. I hope that you have found this as fascinating as I have, and that you will go and check out Michael's website and some of his posts on Instagram and Facebook, I think. And in the meantime, I'm going to invite you to stay curious. I'll see you next time.

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