Unlocking Holistic Health Secrets with Laura Hoorweg

Interview with Laura Hoorweg Part 1

Laura: [: 00:00:00

my little saying to a lot of people is I am the most grounded woo woo person you could ever meet. Cause when I tell people that I'm a psychic and a medium and that, you know, their eyes get bigger and, you know, psychics bad enough, but then you start talking about mediumship and dead people and they like, like, whoa, but I, you know, I just say I am the most, and I took years to be so grounded.

But I'm practical

Laurin: Hello and welcome back to Curiously Wise. I am Laurin Wittig and I'm so happy to have you back here with us again. I have a wonderful guest for you today. As you know, , I always get really excited about the people I have on here because I just love the energy even before we start.

and let me give you her bio [: 00:01:00

She is perceptive in ways that feel like your own deepest knowing. She brings a compassionate, no nonsense presence to her work, along with a huge capacity to see and outline the most positive, life affirming way forward. She is both a seer and a counselor. A refreshing combination. Her passion is to empower people to live their lives in the most authentic and passionate way possible, aligning their lives with their own divine mission and discovering and developing their own spiritual gifts.

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Laura: Thank you very much. I'm happy to be here.

Laurin: Yeah. I'm looking forward to this. Laura and I had a conversation, I don't know, maybe a month ago. I can't remember exactly, but we had so much fun. It was like a no brainer that we were going to come on and do, do another conversation here. So we're going to talk about a few things, but we're going to start with, there's all this energy stuff going on right now.

I know I've been going through upgrade after upgrade, after upgrade lately. Like Almost daily. And my physical self has really been having a little bit of a trouble keeping up with that. So, tell us a little bit about what this energy shift is that's going on right now. Your, your experience of it or your understanding of it so we get a baseline.

uite a while now, but as the [: 00:03:00

And they keep really, really highlighting that date. Okay. So that's only a short, you know, I thought, Oh, that's, that's long. And then I remember, look at the calendar, right? It's like, Six years, like it's like,

Laurin: it's like nothing, especially when you look back at what the last six years have been like, and how fast

said, when you're standing in: 2030

Laurin: my gosh

actually a couple years ago [: 00:04:00

Because it was like COVID was kind of the breaking down of the energy barriers. So all these waves, in case you haven't noticed, that's these, these waves of incredible energy coming through and they're nonstop, they just keep coming.

Laurin: Yeah.

ese massive waves coming into: 2030

There's going to be things that probably a lot of people might identify as being negative. I don't like looking at that, negative, positive, because really it's all just shifts and changes to bring us to where we need to be. So that [00:05:00] is. The real basis that's coming on and that's why when we were talking just before the show I was we were talking about resilience and that's why resilience is so incredibly important because we all have to prepare for this next six years because we're going to need to be extremely resilient and just a little heads up of course that it always is us healers and sayers and coaches and people who are dealing with personal growth and helping others in in those waves of change we're going to be most under that stress of all these energy waves.

So it's really, it's resilience and self care is important for everyone, but it's extremely important for those who are helping others.

t I call upgraded or getting [: 00:06:00

I mean, there's been a couple of times in that that month where I was knocked on my ass for a day or two, and I just had to just surrender.

ink I've been sick once since: 2019

Laurin: Wow.

d to move down and they turn [: 00:07:00

Laurin: Yeah,

Laura: it stayed totally in my sinuses. Guess where our sinuses are? Okay. They're all up here and they're all connected to our third eye region. They're in the connection to our crown, all those things. And I kind of went, Oh, this is really interesting. I can't wait to see what happens after it goes away.

And that was a huge energy shift.

Laurin: Yeah.

Laura: It started in earnest right after the equinox, the fall equinox, and then we had eclipses and full moons and there was all kinds of astrological, really big stuff going on too. So,

Laurin: yeah. Yeah. I was kind of shocked the day of the The eclipse. Oh, yes. We couldn't see it here.

was odd, but then I thought, [: 00:08:00

Laura: Well, to have the knowledge, it helps, because if you don't You know, it can be downright frightening for some people who have no knowledge of what's going on, you know. We'll talk about the fact that they're, they're totally asleep, and there's things happening to them. And that's why there's so many people, the the push to wake up.

eels like now the energy has [: 00:09:00

And I think that's all that driving energy heading into 2030.

Laurin: Okay, yeah, that makes a lot of sense to me. I hadn't really put that together. It's funny because whenever I hear Age of Aquarius... You're probably of a similar age to me.

Laura: Oh, the song starts playing.

Laurin: I think of the musical Hair. I know.

Laura: But it is a real thing.

Laurin: But I always thought it started back then.

Laura: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We were still in the Piscean era. Very, very heavily in the Piscean era. But we're definitely not now. And it's very changed. It's just, you know, there's that saying about nothing is a constant except change. Well, you better get used to really relating to that because it's going to be nonstop for everybody in all different ways, both in energetically and as we talked about also in the physical world and the astrological alignments and all those things.

Laurin: Yeah, and it does [: 00:10:00

Laura: Oh, yes.

Laurin: You know, so that's a lot of, I have a feeling a lot of people are gonna be struggling with that because if you're not aware, you think your body's breaking down or you think you know, there's something really wrong, and it's just these, I think of it as a disharmony.

You know, like your body, your physical body's frequency and there's other frequencies coming in and you haven't attuned to it yet. And it just feels jangling to me.

Laura: Oh, that's a good word. I like that.

Laurin: Yeah.

Laura: That's why that holistic self care is so important because we have to do everything to support our physical bodies to make that vibrational change.

In order to accommodate, you know, it's the vessel, it's the, the urn, I like that word urn, it's the urn of our soul.

Laurin: Oh, I like that.

upgrade your energy and your [: 00:11:00

Laurin: Yes.

Laura: And I like to think of it as, as taking out the paint set and repainting the urn and making it into something that it then on the next level, on the next vibration.

Laurin: Yeah. Elevating it. Yeah.

Laura: Elevating it. There's good. Elevating it. Elevating it, yeah.

Laurin: So let's back up just a minute and talk about resilience specifically. Okay. So explain what you mean by resilience because it's a word we've all heard, but I'm not sure we all know what it means.

Laura: Well, resilience, the way that my guys look at it is the straightforward way.

a way that moves you forward [: 00:12:00

And it's really about embracing the change and the resilience comes from all those things. Like I talk about the four pillars. So it's physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual. So that's what the four pillars are what builds your resiliency, looking after those things. Cause just think about a chair.

Okay. If you've got the four legged chair and you haven't got all those legs, really solid, what's going to happen? You can end up in a, in a puddle on the floor. So. Some of them some of them are very physical things. Some of them are, you know, deep emotional things. Some of them are very energetic things.

g to use the word assaulted. [: 00:13:00

Because it isn't, by the way, it's

Laurin: no

Laura: positive. It's just going to be so strong. And it's like, how can I? Oh, that's a good. Thank you guys. It's like if you're a surfer. Okay. And you're surfing in that big surf on the pipeline in Hawaii. And you know, there's just wave after wave after wave after wave that keeps hitting you on the top of the head and pushing you down into the coral.

Okay. And if you're not a really good swimmer, and you don't know what you're doing out in that heavy surf. Guess what's going to happen? You're going to get cut up, like really cut up and you know, you could even die. And that's how, not to be ultra dramatic or anything, but it's true, like, and you can see what's happening already.

to really start in earnest. [: 00:14:00

Laurin: Okay, this year, that's the year I keep hearing about.

Laura: Yeah,: 2024

And change. And see the thing with human beings, of course, you know, we all resist change. So that's going to be very challenging for a lot of people. And we all have the areas that we have, a little bit more problem dealing with the challenge in certain areas. Some of us are really good at dealing with physical things.

with all this energy pumping [: 00:15:00

And this is where resiliency comes in because you really need, I remember when I was taking my at my courses to be a lifeguard, the whole drown proofing thing, like you literally had to do egg beaters and they would come and they would put great big sandbags on your shoulders and you had to have your hands in the air, okay?

This was part of the life saving course. You had to be doing egg beaters under the water and you had to Have your chest out of the water and you couldn't use your hands. And when they wanted to get really nasty, they came and put the, the sandbags on your shoulders. Okay. So just imagine how difficult that is.

Yeah. Oh, some people couldn't even do it for like,

Laurin: I would panic,

Laura: We literally got up to the point where we were literally doing it for five minutes.

Laurin: That's hell of an exercise.

Laura: It really is. [: 00:16:00

I remember in my exam, my instructor teamed me up with this guy, he was like 6'2 and he was built like a Mack truck. And this was when you had to rescue a drowning victim, and they're going to drown you. Yeah, right. They're just flailing, they're going to grab on you, they're going to push you down. Well, you want to try to do this.

Being a woman and have this six foot two guy that's built like a Mack truck. Okay. So you said kind of get in the picture?

Laurin: Yeah.

Laura: So this is, this is what I'm talking about in terms of being resilient. It's not simply strength. It's also technique. Okay? Because that's what you're learning in life saving.

in their chest and you boot [: 00:17:00

Yeah. And then you can rescue them. But if you try to rescue them when they're flailing around and grabbing onto you by the neck and pulling you under. You're both gonna die. Yeah. So this is why I was saying, I love how this comes full circle. It's going to be so important for people who are helping others.

And any healing modality, I consider what I do is a healing modality. anYthing where you're helping others. You even have to be more resilient.

Laurin: Yeah. Okay. All right. Hold that thought one second. My doggie wants to come in the room. She likes to be in here and sleeping when I'm doing this. So I'm going to let her in.

Laura: Oh no, no problem. Real quick. I love the little furry energy. And they love the energy as well.

So it's just brought up something they want to talk about. Let's just follow that...

w animals are going to be so [: 00:18:00

We cannot do that for others. Yeah, and animals as you know They are the only thing on this earth that is actually capable of unconditional love. That's my Understanding. as long as we're in the physical body, we can get close to unconditional love, but we can't do it As long as we're in the physical body and on this physical plane but animals can.

Laurin: Yeah. And dogs are particularly.

Laura: Dogs are particularly.

Laurin: Good with that.

Laura: Some cats.

Laurin: Yes, I've had some cats that were, but most of them were like, yeah, I will cohabitate with you.

ve more of a teacher energy. [: 00:19:00

Laurin: They are. and I grew up with both. we had two dogs as adults, but I call her my familiar because if I'm working with a client she's got to be in this room with me. And she was scratching at the door.

Laura: Oh yeah. That's why I always tell my clients, like, just let them in, like, unless they're, you know, unless they're going to be crazy and barking and everything, but most dogs will settle even if they're kind of a barky dog.

Once they get into the energy of a session, they'll just settle right down anyway. And they just lie there and soak it all up.

Laurin: Enjoy the heck out of it.

Laura: Oh yeah. This is this is what my guides had shown me in terms of energetically they actually add energy to the session, like healing energy. And they also help to open up the, the energy of their owners.

They know you better energetically than you know yourself.

find her very grounding too. [: 00:20:00

Yes. Helped me. She sleeps curled up right next to me every night. That's very, very, you know, calming too.

Laura: But that's where cats come in too. I was reading something the other day. I'm just kind of a sponge. I get little bits and pieces from everywhere. About the frequency of a cat's purr.

And how that, that actually affects people's blood pressure and heart rate and all that. So that's their little magic wand. I think dogs kind of have a tendency to suck things out of us, like they draw things out, whereas cats, I think, because of the purring, it's almost like going to a sound healing.

Laurin: I was about to say, it's sound healing.

you have a burk, but that's [: 00:21:00

It drives me crazy sometimes because they'll give me broad hints about things. But always, everything in perfect divine timing and they never necessarily tell me like I want to know it the whole story all at once and that rarely ever happens, but they'll cast out these broad hints on things.

So I have to start interpreting kind of where they're going with things. And that's the other thing about the animal kingdom. I think there's going to be some amazing happenings. And relationship changes between the animal kingdom and people. And this is going to start, I think it's going to start happening as soon as next year.

way. That there, there's the [: 00:22:00

Because, one of the ways, people are always asking me how my guides and, how their guides and angels, communicate with them. And what I find is one of the biggest ways that they communicate with me is they pull things out of my own experience. And they'll take those experiences and kind of use them in an image way, because they know that I know that's [00:23:00] what happened, but they'll use it in a different way, in a very symbolic way.

Laurin: Yeah, they do like to be symbolic.

Laura: Oh yes, they do.

Laurin: Yeah. Early on when I was not as purposefully communicating with my guides, I would see animals. And, when you get a sign, you know it's a sign. So I see deer all the time. We live, our house was literally built on a deer trail.

So we have deer through our yard all the time.

But, there was a period where I would see deer and it would be in an unusual place, or it would particularly draw my attention.

And I learned very quickly that that was a sign for me and I'd come home and I'd look up what's the symbolism of a deer and this kind of stuff. And I still get that. I do a lot of shamanic work. I love the shamanic methodology is very symbolic and symbolism is a much more complex language than languages.

t things in bits and pieces. [: 00:24:00

So it's really about our, both our connection to spirit as well as our connection to the earth and those resonances, and there's a lot of people that keep thinking very spiritually and reaching up, but they don't realize that the whole purpose of us being here is to pull, literally pull that energy down through our bodies.

And raise the vibration of our bodies and also provide that vibration to the earth and our connection to the earth. And so this is where we get very shamanistic. And I love this stuff because every indigenous people around the, around the globe has some form of shamanism because shamanism is based on the earth.

Yes. And the [: 00:25:00

And it's going to start because of that connection. heaven and earth next year, that vibration, that eight vibration, it's really going to start in earnest next year. So that tells me that these animal stuff is really going to ramp up.

lately, partly because it's [: 00:26:00

Laura: Oh, absolutely.

Laurin: And we tend to get really enamored with the spirit part. And I know me, I love nothing better than to kind of energetically lift up out of this body and go play, but I've been told again and again, and I'm getting lessons in it, but that I need to bring that spiritual part of me fully into the physical and.

Laura: Yeah,

Laurin: I can tell you live as both simultaneously, right?

Laura: For many decades when I was younger, especially in my 30s and 40s. When I, because I, I really started in earnest my spiritual journey when I was in my early thirties. I have all kinds of stuff that happened to me when I was young too, but I mean consciously.

ime was she would be pulling [: 00:27:00

And that, that, that was that whole process. So that's how important it is. And that's why there's so many, there's kind of a belief out there, people get carried away with this word called Ascension. And they believe Ascension is ascending and leaving the body. That's not what Ascension is. Not in this time.

e physical in a progression. [: 00:28:00

Even in the back, I'm checking. Yes, in Lemuria for the most part, they were in a true light body. As the progression went on and they got denser and denser, they were more, for example, in Atlantis, that time period, they were physical, but they still weren't quite as physical as we are today.

They weren't as dense as we are today, but that's been a progression, and now we're going the other way. We're going back to what we began as. Yeah. So again, that symbolism that shamanic symbolism.

Laurin: Okay, figure eight, infinity. Yep.

Laura: That and also into the underworld denser and denser because everybody thinks of the earth as being very dense and the cosmos being very high light vibrational.

So going [: 00:29:00

Laurin: That's good. I've never had it explained that way. That makes a lot of sense to me.

Laura: Okay, good. Yeah. I wasn't sure if I was making sense there.

Laurin: It totally makes sense because it's been the body attuning to the higher vibrations.

Laura: Exactly.

Laurin: As opposed to leaving the body.

Laura: Exactly.

Because there would be no point. If we were just going to leave our bodies, we could have stayed on the other side in the first place.

Laurin: Yeah. We're here to have a human experience, right?

Laura: Exactly.

Laurin: We got to have a body to do that.

Laura: We're souls having a human experience, not humans having a spiritual experience. And that's where the mind, even a lot of the old, what I call the old new age belief systems were very much about that, about everybody's leaving and we're going to send and yadda yadda yadda.

y and we ground that energy, [: 00:30:00

Laurin: The earth. And the earth is definitely Vibration is rising more and more rapidly, too.

Laura: Schuman Resonance and all these other things and the energy.

I've been shown there's the mass consciousness, the energy that surrounds the earth. You can't see it or we can't see it yet. That is all the collective energies of everybody's emotions and mental energies and all that. And that has to rise too, because it's almost like a dampening field. That's why when there's a lot of action going on, , A good example of that was during 9 11. Because of the TV coverage and everything around the world and the instantaneous, there was this massive explosion of energy because there was fear and trepidation and anger and all those things.

oes into that belt of energy [: 00:31:00

Laurin: Yeah. So here's where I want to put some puzzle pieces together or try to, because I have been involved in creating matrix around the earth a number of years ago. And I recently in a channeling was shown and given the information that there's a new matrix around the earth that's multi dimensional, and it is made up of multiplicity of vibrations. And that this is there to help everything begin to harmonize and then to come together, maybe not as one vibration, but to come into harmony.

So I'm thinking that part of the work of that, that I wasn't aware of is helping that other sphere of density to rise up.

Laura: As you're talking, I'm checking things out with my mind.

Laurin: Yeah. [: 00:32:00

I'm getting goosebumps. So I got it right.

Laura: And also I'm being shown that that is also a shielding. It has a shielding purpose as well to help keep out some energies and stuff that we're not ready for yet. And it's kind of like putting orchids in a greenhouse. you don't want anything interfering with the orchids.

So what do you do? You put them in the greenhouse. Cause then the bugs can't get them, they're kind of sheltered from the heavy rains that would kill them and all those kinds of things. So that's the image they're giving me. So it's like the earth is an orchid and they actually, this is what they're showing.

I like literally seeing this and there's this, it's more than a dodecahedron, but you know what I mean, there's, what you talked about, the matrix around the earth is all in little triangles.

Laurin: Tesseracts.

Laura: [: 00:33:00

Laurin: But there, there are actually what, what I was told is there was something called a tesseract, which I can not tell you what it looks like, but you can look it up online, but it's a multidimensional.

Laura: Yeah, well, everything's multidimensional. That's the thing.

Laurin: Okay. Well, that was interesting. It's like, I got to put that together with what I know and see,

Laura: well, you have to be what I've been shown and what I've learned is you have to be very careful with verbiage because whenever anybody puts terms to things, I would say, okay now, what do you mean?

Because I've been in a room, and this always makes me laugh, I've been sitting between two people, and they're arguing, like, bitterly, back and forth, and it's starting to get a little heated, and I just look at these two people, and I go, whoa, I said, do you realize you're both saying exactly the same thing?

tell them what you mean, and [: 00:34:00

Laurin: Yeah. I've found that there are times when my husband and I get a little bit at cross purposes and it's because I'm using words one way and he's using different words.

Laura: A lot of times the same word, like this is the problem, I can say a word and it means one thing to me, but it means something totally different to you. That's why you need to go beyond the terms and say, what does that mean to you? Which you just did, which is amazing because that's one of the things that we need to do on a regular basis with others and with ourselves, because we do it to ourselves sometimes.

Which is kind of bizarre, but we do.

Laurin: Okay. Because the subtitle of my podcast is practical spirituality in action. I want to just circle back one more time to those four pillars that you talked about. And can you give us a couple of self care examples for each of the four pillars?

now your physical body. It's [: 00:35:00

And one of the biggest problems now, because we're both over 50, yeah, I'm just leaving it there, is that people over 50 are trying to exercise like they did in their 30s. And not only that, a lot of the personal trainers and stuff are still guiding people to do that. And that is not only not healthy, it can be injurious to people. So again, you [00:36:00] have to find, it's more, I don't even like now using the word exercise, what I've been told to say is movement.

Movement. That's when I use to be moving our bodies. And we need to be doing it every day. And we should be doing it at least for half an hour to an hour every day. And it's some kind of movement. I don't care whether it's walking or swimming or dance or whatever. And to me, I always suggest to my clients that they find as many different things that they enjoy.

And do a multiplicity of things. That way you don't get bored. And that way you're giving your body a different experience. So that's basically, well, wait a minute. I forgot. Sleep is the other big under physical. This is a major problem for so many people now. And getting that in order, okay?

it's not about the number of [: 00:37:00

I know people that sleep four or five hours a night. And get high, high quality sleep and they are perfectly healthy and perfectly good with that. Now, other people might, I know people that also have to get like eight or nine hours.

Laurin: That's me because I don't get deep sleep easily.

Laura: Yes. You hit the nail on the head. That's the secret. You need to get into techniques that increase your deep, deep REM sleep. There's deep sleep and there's REM sleep. They kind of come together. But what I've been shown is you should be getting, if you combine your REM and your deep sleep, you should be getting four, four and a half hours of that.

So whatever you need to do to get that, you need to do it.

Laurin: And for me, it takes about nine hours in bed.

tweak. Yeah, I can. You can [: 00:38:00

It's just, again, that's my goal. It's a, it's an ongoing thing, right? It's an ongoing process.

Laurin: And I'm actually working with a health coach who's helping me figure that out too.

Laura: And again, that's a very individualized thing. Because different people have very different sleep patterns.

Yeah. But there are some common things. if you do them that will help you. They're pretty much common to just about everybody. The other one I almost forgot in physical is stress, stress control, stress management. My biggest one and forever and always will be meditation.

Laurin: Yes, mine too

Laura: and I use this so much with my clients and I really stress this because the other thing I love about meditation is the magic of meditation is that it hits all four pillars at once physical Emotional and spiritual all at the same time.

Okay, and it [: 00:39:00

It's not about meditating for hours and hours, like people think hours and hours, I've got to meditate for two hours or three hours. No. The biggest thing with meditation that I've been shown over and over again is consistency. Okay, and consistency. This is why they call it a meditation practice, right?

around half an hour building [: 00:40:00

Remember we talked half an hour of exercise half an hour of Meditation. Okay, so that pretty much covers physical stuff.

Then we have our emotional. Emotional health is all about getting to know yourself, understanding your own emotions. So you need to dig into those and if you've got any issues with that, you need to be working with the appropriate person to clear those emotions and to get yourself into a healthy emotional state.

I've been through all kinds of trauma and challenges and bad stuff in my life. The thing that saved me the most, was what I just did. Laughter, a sense of humor, a sense of irony, and that can take you through the darkest day of the soul. If you really cultivate that ability. Some people have a natural affinity for humor and laughter.

Other people have to [: 00:41:00

Mental health and emotional health kind of... And there's a lot of people these days that are suffering from, mental illnesses of varying degrees and severities. But what I'm liking and what I really love that's happening is the conversation around mental illness is finally coming out of the closet and people are owning it.

People are being able to discuss it because really, honestly, mental illness is no different than physical illness. Right? And we have to do that because one of the biggest things that has been proliferating the untreated mental illness situation is the fact that nobody wants to talk about it.

Yeah. And people are [: 00:42:00

That's a whole, we could do a whole nother show on that one.

Laurin: A whole nother show.

Laura: That has been so abused, and I'm just gonna say it's abused. These labels that they've been putting on children just to medicate them and, control behavioral problems, which are not mental illnesses.

Right. Their lack of exercise most of the time.

This is one of the problems with the advent of kind of mental illness coming out of the closet, especially in the ADHD world. It's been used as a catch all, crutch all, and a way to over medicate kids instead of dealing with their discipline and self control problems.

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Laurin: And I know the research that I've read up on, cause my son was diagnosed as ADD in high school, is that kids used to get a lot more activity during a school day and that has been taken away and taken away until they really just don't get, they're sitting still, which girls tend to be a little bit better at than boys, but even that is, well, as I said,

Laura: I was never one of those girls.

Laurin: I could have sat in a schoolroom all day long. but they, there were some studies done that showed if you gave them time at the beginning of the day to play and run around and stuff, and then you started school.

Laura: Well, and that's what recess used to be for.

Laurin: I know.

d there was also, when I was [: 00:44:00

There was athletic stuff in the morning before school. So you're right. All that stuff has gone away and that needs to come back or there needs... our school system's broken. That's all I'm going to say. That's a whole nother hour again.

Laurin: Exactly. We won't go there. Okay. So we have, we talked about mental, emotional, physical, let's hit the spiritual pillar.

Laura: Spiritual pillar. Now, this is an interesting pillar because again, it's very individualistic, but the banner that everything goes under is we as humans need to have a connection to something that's greater than ourselves.

powers you and allows you to [: 00:45:00

Laurin: the name doesn't matter.

Laura: The name doesn't matter. it's the universal energy that it runs through everything and all of us. And you have to have, like I said, it doesn't matter what your belief system is, as long as it supports those energies and it connects you to the universe and everything else in it, including each of us.

And the animals and the trees and everything.

give you some stuff to try, [: 00:46:00

Laurin: Right. So let's take one more, not a tiny topic, but... so for me, I'm very intuitive, so I can kind of, I call it feeling into things to see if that feels good to me to do, like for instance, some sort of physical movement. You know, do I want to go run for two miles? No, that doesn't feel good to me at all.

But do I want to go play pickleball for an hour with friends? Yeah. That sounds okay. That feels good. That opens me up. I'm not going, I'm literally opening my body to that energy. So for people who may not be as tuned into their intuition as people like you and me, they just haven't gotten there yet because everybody can do that.

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Laura: Everybody can do it. It's just people can do it to different degrees. So people, I really find that with most things, especially with physical activities and foods and all that kind of things, people can get a pretty good handle on what they like and what they don't like.

And if they're unsure, try it. And see how it feels and you'll get a pretty good message usually pretty quickly, whether that's something for you or it's not. And there's something for everyone, like you can figure out what it is. the other thing, this is a good way that you can use meditation as well.

Like if you're really unsure. And you're trying to choose between... because let's face it, we've only got so much, we've got to fit everything into a day. So we've only got so much time. So we want to find the things that are the best things for us that really do it for us. I call it the juice.

makes you feel really good. [: 00:48:00

Try to get as much into the sights and the smells and stuff like that and just lie there and feel how that feels and then try something else. And then compare the two and go, Oh, and I guarantee you, even if you're not, if you consider yourself not intuitive at all, which is, but anyway, and, they'll get a really good idea.

Now when it comes to other things like foods and supplements and all that, there's a kinesiology thing that's muscle testing. That's super easy. And this, you can actually do it yourself. The arm one, where you have somebody else do it, it's a little bit more sensitive and you can get a little bit more accuracy.

hold it in your non dominant [: 00:49:00

Like, don't lock your knees, just a slight bend and just relax. Stand there for a minute and relax and I guarantee you you will either gently fall forward or you will gently fall back or you won't move. If you gently fall forward that means that food, that supplement, whatever it is You have in your hand, that means it's going to be helpful for your body.

if you're going backwards, eh, that's not a good thing. If you're neutral, that means, especially if it's a supplement, you're wasting your money because it's not doing anything for you.

So you can do that with all kinds of things. Even clothing, I know people that were having skin irritations and they couldn't figure out exactly what type of clothing material was really bothering them.

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Laurin: Right.

And the one piece that is important with all of the examples that you've given of how to get an answer, is that taking a moment to, to feel, how does my body feel consciously? Because we tend to kind of go...

Laura: that's why I say, yeah. Take a couple of deep breaths, and I always ask a question, and usually the question is, especially if it's something that I'm putting in my body, is I say, is this good for my body at this moment?

This is the other thing. You should frequently test different things, because at different times, your body will need different things, at different times, your body will reject different things. So just because a certain supplement, Was good for a while Sometimes your body doesn't need it anymore or there's something better or something So you want to test on a regular basis?

ays have your body with you. [: 00:51:00

Laura: Exactly. And the more you do it for yourself, the better you'll get at it.

Laurin: .Yeah. I like pendulums. I have like...

Laura: that's another way.

Laurin: All over my office.

Laura: Yeah. But you see that's a bit too much for a lot of people.

Laurin: Yeah. Yeah.

Laura: And it's hard for a lot of people to do. This is why this one, the whole kinesiology thing, I just use that one because literally anybody can do it and often... guys don't take the offense... but men are often resistant to anything like this. And I've taught this to men who would poo poo just about anything else.

And they go, Oh, is that all I have to do? And I'm like, yeah, that's all you have to do. And they do it and they start doing it and they go, Oh, yeah, this actually works. I can feel the difference. I'm going to imagine that.

ple that I'm a psychic and a [: 00:52:00

But I'm practical because you see, what I learned, I had a very long, when I was 10 or 11 years old, I didn't come from a spiritual or a religious family. My family didn't go to church or anything. When I was 10 or 11, I decided in my little girl self, stubborn self, that I was going to find God, that I wanted to know where God was.

ches within literally within [: 00:53:00

So I literally did that every Sunday. I went to a different church and I went to all kinds of different churches. And unfortunately, I found out for myself that God wasn't there. There was some nice people, and some not so nice people, and some kind of nice things, and some things that I didn't particularly care for in different churches.

But, God wasn't there. So run forward a few years and I actually, this is when I got into hiking and canoeing and, being out in the wilderness. And I found my church and my God was the out in the wilderness. Out in nature.

Laurin: Yeah, me too.

Laura: And that's where I've come from. And I had some pretty wild experiences too.

nd whatever gets you in the, [: 00:54:00

Laurin: You froze.

If you can hear me, you might want to shut down and come back in.

Laura: I am so powerful. This happens to me quite often. Okay. That's why I was laughing. Anyway, I'll finish that thought because I don't think you heard the last part.

Laurin: No, we didn't.

Laura: The thing about church, I have some friends who are very avid churchgoers and that's where they feel connected. They feel connected through the service.

Through the music. They don't think God is in the church, but that is where they connect in there. That's for them. So there's something for everyone, you know, people I know connect through chanting and

Laurin: ecstatic dance

Laura: or all kinds of different things. So it's like, and I've had different experiences actually with all those things.

nt things. I call myself the [: 00:55:00

I've studied all kinds of different belief systems and religions and all that kind of thing. I have clients from all different kinds of religions and all different kinds of spiritual belief. So it's not like one group. Right. It's not like, Oh, you have to be very spiritually involved to come and talk to Laura. Because I have people from every religion that you can think of and, and non religious.

Laurin: Right. You can be an atheist and still come.

Laura: You can be an atheist and come talk to me.

Laurin: Yeah. So, all right. I think that's a good place for us to come down to a conclusion here. Although I know we could just talk for days.

Laura: I know.

Laurin: how about, you tell the listeners, where they can find you?

Laura: [: 00:56:00

It's just www. spirit speaks two, the number, dot me.

Laurin: Okay. And we'll have that in the show notes.

Laura: And, I have a Facebook page, my personal page is basically all inspiration.

And I also have a group on Facebook, which is called spirit speaks to me, and that is a lot of informational and also inspirational information.

I'm not really into... I'm getting more into Instagram, but you're welcome to come and follow me on Instagram if you'd like.

but my main thing right now is most of my stuff is either on the website or getting in touch with me and following me through Facebook.

alk about. Oh, she's got one [: 00:57:00

Laura: they just bugged me. Cause you had asked me and I really hadn't thought of it, but everything's done on an intuitive level. I'm going to give your listeners, because you have some really wonderful listeners. I'm going to give them a special offer.

So if you contact me and you tell me that you've heard it on Laurin's show, I will do a gift for you because I want to spread the word through as many people as possible.

Basically you get the first session at regular price and the second session is half price. So, you can do it a number of ways, you can use them both for yourself, or you can get one for yourself and you can gift the half off one to somebody else.

Laurin: Sweet. Thank you. I will put that in the show notes as well.

Laura: I've learned here that I have to put at least some kind of timeline on that. , let's make it till the end of the year then.

yway because everybody wants [: 00:58:00

Laurin: So once more, I'm going to thank the listeners for being here and tune in for the next iteration of our conversation because there will be at least one more and I have a feeling more than that.

I know I've got a lot more that I can learn from Laura and it's just a delight to have you here. And I hope that those of you who have joined us have learned a lot. I hope we have piqued your curiosity and I hope you will follow up with Laura and take advantage of her offer and just check out everything she's got on her website and Facebook cause I know you'll find something juicy there.

and if you're interested in more about me, if you don't know me yet, my website is heartlightjoy.com and I'll have that in the show notes as well. And you can go there and get all the information about where you can find me on socials and sign up for my newsletter.

ave a wonderful day and stay [: 00:59:00

Thank you so much for joining us today on Curiously Wise. I hope this conversation has left you feeling inspired and curious about the world around and within you. After all, curiosity is the key to growth and understanding. So keep asking questions and exploring new ideas. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider subscribing and or leaving a review.

It helps us be found by others. If you're curious to learn more about me or my healing practice, Heartlight Wellness, head over to my website at heartlightjoy.com. Until next time, I'm Laurin Wittig. Stay curious.